

It’s kind of depressing that I can’t play with other people-I can’t tour and that kind of stuff. You don’t want to get locked in that particular grid, and we’re not moving around so you have to be in your head a lot more. Hopefully you don’t get your feelings cut off while you try and figure things out so you don’t get really set with certain manipulations that are-I believe-in public behavior at the moment. Well, you know, this is a time when you have to think. How have you been this week? Where is your mind nowadays?

Thank you for taking the time out to do this. I just wanted to say thanks for doing this interview. It’s getting colder now, but when it’s warmer I like to bike. I’m not a huge skateboarder but I do bike every now and then. Their shop is called Natty Bwoy Bikes & Boards, right in the L on 51st Street. Yeah, the shop is near Theaster Gates ’s experimental studio on 55st and King Drive. My son’s over in the bike shop today so I was buying some gridwall where they can hang skateboards and merchandise off of. Joshua Minsoo Kim talked with El’Zabar on October 16th to discuss the most important lesson his mother taught him, AACM, his newest albums, and more. His newest album, America the Beautiful, contains previously unreleased music from more than a decade ago along with new recordings. El’Zabar released an album, Spirit Groove, earlier this year and it featured longtime collaborator David Murray. He founded the Ritual Trio and Ethnic Heritage Ensemble, both of which have released albums since the 1980s. He joined the Association of the Advancement of Creative Musicians ( AACM ) when he was 18 and became its chairman in 1975. Kahil El’Zabar, born Clifton Henry Blackburn, Jr., is a Chicago-based multi-instrumentalist and composer.
